Nokia 5310 Express Music / SE K770i

[johnnie]

E,piki da te pitam...shta bi trebalo da ochekujem od opreme?Ovi po radnjama nude:PUNJACH,SLUSHALICE(ali koje?da li i to treba da gledam,da me ne zjb?),MEM. KARTICA 1GB,USB...Jel bi trebalo da ide i CD uz to???pozz

[tehno maniac]

Trebalo bi da dobiješ:punjač,slušalice (u 2 dela,crne)kabal,mem.card 1-2gb cd sa SW i upustvo .

[djolex]

Šta ti je CD sa "SW-om"?
E,jel bi trebalo da gledam bateriju,da mi ne uvale neku tamo...???

Cd sa softverom za komp. imaš PC suite i te ostale džidža midže na tom disku
A bateriju ne bi bilo loše da pogledaš ako ima hologram kako je propisano da ga ima, ispod onog crnog kod da proveriš na netu i ako piše Made in China mora da ima i na Francuskom Fabrique en Chine, balkan product code ispod baterije i sve ostale stvari koje čine original telefon ( da nije sa mreže ) i bateriju itd.

[johnnie]

Uzeo sam Nokijicu!!!:)))i verujte nisam se pokajao,telefon je vrhunski,vredi sve pare!!!;)))i naravno nashao solidnu radnju koja mi je dala full opremu!;)))nego...sad me muchi jedna druga stvar...da li kod novijih telefona baterija treba da se formira ili ne????Jedni misle ovako,a drugi onako...tako da bih vas molio da mi pomognete oko toga...))veliki pozz za sve

[tehno maniac]

Možeš da je potpuno isprazniš i puniš jedno 8 sati 2-3 puta! .

[IDzO]

tehno maniac

johnnie, ove litijum jonske baterije ne treba formatirati vec ih punis samo dok ti indikator na displeju pokazuje da se puni i kad se napuni baterija skidas sa punjaca i uzivas u novom telefonu!
Te price 3x8 ili 3x15 sati punjenja su obicna glupost!!!

[tehno maniac]

Ja samo pričam kako ja radim .

[tomas.hokenberi]

tehno maniac, To sto ti tako radis ne znaci da tako treba. Postoji, ako se ne varam, i tema o punjenju Li-Ion baterija gde je vise puta ponovljeno da je formiranje Li-Ion baterija cista glupost.

"Formiraju" se Ni-Mh baterije koje se vec godinama ne koriste u mobilnim telefonima. Istina nasi prodavci "strucno" kao papagaji ponavljaju tu budalastinu. A jos se i nadju "strucnjaci" koji tvrde da su "formiranjem" Li-Ion baterije povecali kapacitet za 10% ili takvu neku slucnu glupost.

Nikom naravno ne pada napamet sta se zapravo desava kada se "formira" Ni-Mh baterija i zasto cela stvar nema veze sa Li-Ion i Li-Polymer baterijama.

Evo citata iz jednog dokumenta (ovde se radi o baterijama za laptopove ali je tehnologija ista):

http://h18000.www1.hp.com/legacysupport ... HNOT1A.DOC

Digital Notebook Battery
User’s Guide

Part Number: ER-NBBTR-BM. A01
Digital Equipment Corporation

General Battery Information
Introduction
The length of time that your system can be operated on battery power directly depends on your operating habits, system characteristics, milliamp/hour capacity of the battery, and battery technology (nickel-metal hydride - NiMH or lithium-ion - LiIon).
This guide provides information on how to maximize your battery’s life span and run time. Also provided in this guide is information on how you can expect your notebook’s battery to perform under diverse operating conditions.
Important!
No matter what type of battery technology your notebook incorporates, even a new battery may not be fully charged at the time of purchase. This is because all batteries lose some of their charge during storage, even the “storage” time before a notebook system is purchased. Therefore, before using battery power for the first time, you should make sure your battery is fully charged.
If you have a NiMH battery, this means you must “form” the battery (refer to the Nickel-Metal Hydride Batteries section of this guide).
If you have a lithium-ion battery, simply charge the battery before using it for the first time.

NiMH (Nickel-Metal Hydride) Batteries

Introduction

NiMH batteries appear in many different kinds of devices, such as cellular phones and camcorders. NiMH technology offers users notable advances over its predecessor, nickel-cadmium (NiCd) technology.
Digital has incorporated NiMH battery technology into the design of the HiNote. This technology supports 30% more charge capacity than NiCd batteries, providing users with significantly more run time. Containing no toxic metals, NiMH batteries do not require any special disposal procedures, making them extremely environmentally friendly.
Your battery not only powers the notebook, but also significantly affects system performance. It is therefore important to take proper care of your NiMH battery. When a battery is not properly cared for, both its life span and runtime will decline.

Memory Effect
A NiMH battery in poor or declining condition may begin to exhibit characteristics of “memory effect.” A memory effect will occur when a user frequently charges the battery before it is fully drained. For example, if you use the battery for 20 minutes at a time and then recharge it, the battery will tend to “remember” that it only needs to operate 20 minutes per charge. As a result, during the charging process the declining battery will only receive a portion of its charge capacity. The declining battery will also exhibit some characteristics of a fully charged battery. For example, during charging, the battery temperature will rise, prompting the system to stop charging.

NiMH Battery Life

The memory effect also has a direct impact on the battery’s life span. NiMH batteries have a typical life (charge/drain cycles) of up to 800 cycles. If the battery is used an average of 30 minutes per cycle, you can expect a total life of 400 hours. If you use the battery 3 hours per cycle, you can expect a total life of 2,400 hours. Therefore, it is advantageous to use the battery as much as possible during each cycle.
Battery Charge Gauge
The battery charge gauge (on the LCD Status Display) may give inaccurate readings when the battery is suffering memory effect. When the battery temperature has risen as part of memory effect, the battery charge gauge may assume that the battery is more charged than it actually is and display the full-charge battery icon.
The battery charge gauge may also give inaccurate readings after a “fresh” battery is swapped in without turning off the system. This occurs because the battery charge gauge readings are based on a new estimate, not having tracked the newly inserted battery charge or discharge amounts. The gauge is not reporting only the condition of the new battery. As a result, the battery charge gauge may report a higher or lower charge than is accurate.
In either of these situations, a full-charge battery icon may display when the battery is actually only partially charged and the system may suspend without warning due to a depleted battery. This can result in the illusion of reduced battery run time. Uncertain as to the cause of the problem, some users will send their notebook to product repair centers, resulting in unwanted downtime. You can receive a more accurate battery charge reading after swapping in a fresh battery by rebooting the system. This action has the effect of “resetting” the battery charge gauge. The following section describes how to minimize the more far reaching problem of memory effect.

Forming the Battery to Minimize Memory Effect

In attempts to prevent the memory effect, it may not always be practical to continuously use your notebook until the battery drains to its minimum level. As a solution, Digital recommends that users periodically “form” or condition the battery. “Forming” allows the battery to achieve its maximum life span as well as providing the maximum battery run time possible, depending upon your requirements and operating habits.

What Does "Forming" a Battery Mean?

When a battery is formed, it is put through a series of charging and draining cycles. A battery that has been formed can be charged to its maximum capacity. As a result, a formed battery will perform better and last longer than a battery that has not been formed.

How Do I Form the Battery?

1.Charge it to its full capacity (approximately 1.5 hours). When the battery has been fully charged, the notebook’s charge LED will turn off.
2.Run the notebook, with all power management features disabled, until the battery is completely drained (approximately 3 hours).
3.Towards the completion of the draining process, the system will pass through a series of system beeps, indicating the battery has reached a low charge state. (You don’t have to be present when the system beeps. That is only an indication of the low charge state of your battery.)
4.When the battery is completely exhausted, the system will enter into a suspend mode. Recharge the battery again and completely drain it again. Fully charge the battery for the third time. The battery is now at maximum capacity.
How Long Does It Take to Form the Battery?
It will take approximately 10.5 hours to complete the battery forming process.
In power off mode, it takes approximately 1.5 hours to fully charge the battery. Depending on your work habits, the battery will reach a low state after approximately 3 hours of use. Forming requires three charging sessions (4.5 hours) and two draining sessions (6 hours)--a total of 10.5 hours.

When Should I Form the Battery?

Form all new batteries, including the battery that came with your system.
Form batteries that do not provide as much run time as they used to.
Form a battery to achieve maximum battery life.
Form the battery if you are receiving questionable readings from the battery icon gauge in the LCD Status Display.

LiIon (Lithium-Ion) Batteries

Introduction

Proven first in cameras and then in camcorders, Digital is pioneering lithium-ion (LiIon) battery technology for the mobile computer user. Digital uses LiIon batteries that are extremely light weight, a highly sought after feature in the portable computing industry.
As a result of its high charge density and voltage, the size of a Digital LiIon battery is minimal, helping to meet the overall system goal of portability while enhancing ergonomics. LiIon batteries have a solid composition that allows the batteries to be fashioned in a variety of shapes, suiting the lowest profile requirement. Digital took advantage of this characteristic in the HiNote Ultra system where the battery is hinged to support the notebook at an angle. As a result, Digital engineers are able to provide users with a more ergonomically designed typing surface for greater comfort.
Longer Run Time
LiIon batteries offer a higher charge density than NiMH batteries. Thus, when comparing a LiIon battery to a NiMH battery of the same weight, the LiIon battery will have significantly longer run time.
Greater Life Span and No Memory Effect
LiIon batteries also have a longer life span, averaging 1,000 complete charge/discharge cycles. In actual use, the number is larger due to the fact that most users will not fully discharge the battery. Unlike the NiMH battery, there is no need to be concerned with fully discharging the battery before charging it again since LiIon technology is not susceptible to memory effect.

[djolex]

Ja uvek napunim bateriju dok ne piše Batery Full
To traje malo duže u odnosu na uobičajeno i uvek treba da bude baterija potpuno ispražnjena bez ijedne crtice ( govorim iz iskustva mog oca kada je kupio 6233 i koristio neko vreme - posle je prešao kod mene ) ali nakon dužeg korišćenja kapacitet baterije je opao zbog načinjene greške i sada ga punim mnogo duže u odnosu na uobičajeno 2h, a traje 2-3 dana s obzirom da ima kapacitet 1100 mAh . Bolje poslušaj da se i tebi isto ne desi

[tomas.hokenberi]

djolex, Posle duzeg koriscenja kapacitet Li-Ion baterija neminovno opada i to nema veze sa nacinom punjenja vec sa starenjem baterije. Poptuno praznjenje je cak stetno za Li-Ion baterije i smanjuje im vek.

[tehno maniac]

Pa ja i nisam rekao da je ispravno !

[MilančeBGD]

Tesko je pogledati lepljive teme...

viewtopic.php?t=1595

[djolex]

Ličnog sam mišljenja da ako se baterija ne napuni dobro, nije normalno da ga punim više sati dok moja keva još fura istu bateriju na 6085 i rekao sam joj svoja uputstva i evo još uvek se puni 2h nakon više od godinu dana korišćenja, ali šta je tu je.

Samo vezano za temu da kažem da je Nokia pravi izbor . Neka te služi dugo i u zdravlje nov mobitel