Nokia usvaja Android (ili Windows?)

[iLuka]

mislim da sam negde procitao da je ta T serija samo za trziste kine i tog dela azije... inace T7 je za nase trziste vec postojeci N8...

[snenad]

prema slikama sa nekog kineskog sajta t7 je n8 doveden na nivo c6-01 tj. 8mp nema hdmi, verovatno ce imati malo memorije i to je to. ili bolje receno e7 bez tastature i hdmi porta.

[znemanja]

Nokia Wants To Keep Symbian Alive Amid Phone 7 Move

Adam Dickter, newsfactor.com Adam Dickter, newsfactor.com Wed Apr 6, 1:57 pm ET

Reports of Symbian's demise appear to be greatly exaggerated. Nokia's signature smartphone operating system was presumed to be a goner when the Finnish handset maker signed an estimated $1 billion deal with Microsoft to use Windows Phone 7. But Nokia with Symbian is more popular in foreign markets, making up about 43 percent of the world's smartphone sales, according to Gartner Research.

What's New?

Now the company is sending out invitations for an April 12 event in London for the tech media to "discover what's new with Symbian smartphones."

Reporters and bloggers speculate the unveiling could be a new handset or an upgrade of the operating system, or both. The last version, Symbian 3, was released in October.

The event will coincide, or perhaps compete, with Microsoft's MIX Conference and an HTC announcement.

Symbian never caught on the U.S. and is essentially a non-player in that market, losing out to Apple's iOS, Google's Android, Research In Motion's BlackBerry and, to a smaller degree, Windows Phone 7.

The latest Symbian phone to hit the market is the Nokia Astound, available from T-Mobile for $79.99 after rebates. Its greatest feature appears to be an eight-megapixel camera. Also expected soon are a series of Nokia T7 phones.

Some reports have noted that the Symbian event's late-night timing, 10 p.m., is clearly geared toward European audiences, suggesting Nokia may continue pushing Symbian for foreign markets while using Phone 7 to attract American customers. In any case, Nokia's Microsoft phones won't hit the market for some time.

"We know there are still Symbian devices coming to market this year," said Carolina Milanesi, Gartner Research's London-based vice president for consumer technologies and markets. "Nokia always said they will continue to make short-term investments to make sure they had devices coming until Windows Phone 7 was ready at different price points, so this is not a surprise at all."

Third Ecosystem

However, Milanesi said news of the event "does not change the bottom line of what Nokia and Microsoft are planning to do over the next few years, which is replacing Symbian and creating a third ecosystem."

Another Gartner analyst, Ken Dulaney, said Nokia needs to keep enthusiasm about Symbian alive.

"Nokia made a mistake in telling the market that Symbian would gradually decline," he said. "In many developers' minds it meant it wasn't a good place to invest, so they have shut off interest by many developers. They never said it was being shut off immediately, and that we would see products for a while. But they did say it would end, and that hurts the prospects for apps, which hurts the prospects for device sales."

Nevertheless, he said, "Nokia still has a good market in emerging economies, so this product will sell. But it certainly doesn't help them where smartphones are more high end and more profitable."

IZVOR: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20110406/bs_nf/78047

[snenad]

prikazan je update za s^3 pr 2.0 ili symbian anna kako ga zovu, mrzi me da linkujem ali izgleda vrh i ima native podrsku za flash 10 (flashlite 4) i tabove u browseru (najzad).
potajno sam se nadao da ce danas na konferenciji prikazati poslednju iteraciju za s^1 i omoguciti update za sve s^1 telefone i malo se razocarao sto su potpuno zaboravili na nas.

[gargamel4]

Ok, na žalost taj prestanak podrške je i očekivan, nego zar nema N8 već fabrički (ili je to možda Opera ) tabove? Viđao sam to na nekim videima.....

[skar]

da tabovi su meni se cini malo drpljeni sa iphonovog safarija,mislim na princip skrolovanja izmedju njih..al sta ima tu lose,u svetu mobilnih OS,je to normalno svako od nekog drpi nesto

[zavodnick]

Bez obzira na savez sa "Majkrosoftom", finska kompanija "Nokija" će primenjivati platformu "simbijan" bar do 2014. godine, izjavio je upravni direktor australijske podružnice "Nokije" Kris Kar.

- Planirano je da se novi smartfoni na bazi "simbijana" proizvode kako ove, tako i 2012. godine - rekao je Kar.

Prema ugovorenim obavezama, kompanija je dužna da obezbeđuje podršku za svoje aparate dve godine posle njihovog izlaska iz proizvodnje.

Top menadžer "Nokije" je istakao da je njegova kompanija u "simbijan" uložila mnogo novca i da nastavlja sa razvojem te platforme. Kar je takođe ukazao na to da za mobilnu industriju nije neobično da u arsenalu postoje istovremeno dva operativna sistema. Sem toga, "Nokija" ne namerava da odustaje od operativnog sistema "MeeGO" i usavršavaće ga zajedno sa kompanijom "Intel".

"Nokija" je u februaru ove godine objavila svoju saradnju sa "Majkrsoftom" i obelodanila da će proizvoditi smartfone na bazi operativnog sistema "Windows Phone 7". Prvi aparati sa WP7, kako se očekuje, pojaviće se krajem 2011. ili početkom 2012. godine.

JUHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[miodrage]

W7 se ocekuje vec za koji mesec i licice na X6, osim sto ce da ima WVGA rezoluciju, a W8 se ocekuje iduce godine. Pa ajde da vidimo sta ce Nokia da nam donese, iako sam ja poprilicno skeptican.

[telep]

miodrage, Najgore je što je Nokia postala totalno nebitna u ovoj priči, jer nije bitno šta će Nokia da uradi nego Microsoft. Ako neko misli da će Symbian dobijati puno pažnje pored WP7 kada telefoni počnu da izlaze je po mom mišljenu pogrešno, jer vidimo kako se nose sa konkurencijom sada i poslednjih godinu dve dok im je Symbian bio primarni OS. Mislim da je neočekivano da Nokia radi na tri fronta: Symbian, WP7 i MeeGo (maemo). Oni su očigledno sve nade položili trenutno u WP7, a ovo kao održavaćemo Symbian do 2014 je umirivanje kupaca, i više je iznuđena reakcija Nokie nego neka njihova realna strategija.

[zavodnick]

telep, MeeGo je odavno vec "mrtav" koliko sam barem ja citao... A iskreno, malo su me "umirili" s tim jer barem necu kupiti telefon kojemu je OS "mrtav"

[snenad]

zavodnick, meego nije umro pre rodjenja. lg ce raditi telefon a nokia tablet na njemu. u igri je i kineski zte ( valjda se tako zvase) a mozda cak i nokia izbaci telefon mada je to malo verovatno
sto se tice podrske za wp s ti nokia nema nista to ce microsoft da radi tako da se nadam da ce i dalje gurati symbian

[Deksi]

To ce biti po onoj poslovici "nov bunar kopaj ali u stari ne pljuj" tako ce i Nokija, terace ona symbian i pratice trziste sta ce reci o novim telefonima na win7 pa ce onda i odlucivati sta ce dalje razvijati. I sigurno symbian nece ugasiti ako win7 ne napravi uspeh. Ako pa win7 prodje dobro ode nam nas symbian.

[zavodnick]

snenad ne znam koliko je to "ocekivano", ali po svim dosadasnjim clancima sto sam procitao, MeeGo je u fazi "klinicke smrti"...
Nesto ne vjerujem da ce se tako nesto desiti deksicom, jer ipak tu se ne radi o ugovorima na mjesec, 6 mjeseci ili godinu. NOKIA ako potpise taj sporazum sa MicroSoft-om to ce biti na nekoliko godina i sumnjam da ce se tako lako odreci Win-a jer napokon ce imati nekoga da rade za njih...

[snenad]

zavodnick, tako se cinilo do pre 10ak dana ali usledile su izjave intela da su odabrali proizvodjaca za tablet (zte) pa se javio i lg za smarphone. sta ce biti vreme ce pokazati.
a u uspeh MicroNokie ja uopste ne sumnjam. narocito kad izadje wp8

[miodrage]

Ja sam jos pre par meseci rekao da je Nokia sama na samrti, a ne samo njihovi OS-ovi. Jednostavno, pregazice ih Android. Uglavnom, ja cekam Win8 pa da vidimo sta ce onda da se izdesava.

[zavodnick]

miodrage, ne znam koliko je NOKIA "ubijena" svim time, ali znam da veliki teret podnosi Symbian. Iskreno se nadam da o tom OS-u necemo pricati u PAST TENSU

[miodrage]

zavodnick, hocemo, ne odmah, ali za 3 godine, i te kako. Na kraju, mislim da ce za te 3 godine da opstane Android, iOS (ali sa dosta smanjenom popularnoscu), Win, i eventualno jos neki OS (webOS, Blackberry, mozda neka forma Meega).
A Nokia je sebe pokopala zadnjih par godina, ja bih rekao od izlaska N96. Jer je taj uredjaj trebalo da bude novi flagship kompanije, a dobili smo djubre. Nadalje znamo kako je sve islo u sunovrat, sve do N8, koji iako je moram priznati izuzetno kvalitetno napravljen, zbog ocajnog OS-a ne moze da napravi nikakav bum na trzistu. A i jedan uredjaj ne moze da iscupa kompaniju koja je sistematski unistavana iznutra godinama. Isto kao i SE, posle W950, ja im ne znam nijedan drugi uredjaj, sve su to neke kopije, budalastine, koje ne trebaju nikome. Izvinjavam se pojedinim vlasnicima, ali to je moje misljenje. Osim high-end klase, sve drugo zanemarujem, i apsolutno me ne zanima.

[rudulan]

A Nokia exit strategy already?
Is Nokia already seeing the signs of a troubled future with Microsoft?
By Brian Proffitt, 1 comment

April 15, 2011, 3:42 PM — We all have regrets, of course. There's the time I opened my big mouth and embarrassed my tenth-grade English teacher in front of the entire class. Then there's the time I flubbed a cross-wind landing and drove my Cessna into the grass in front of my entire flight school. And then there was the time with the duck and--well, you get the idea.

Regrets are part of life and we deal with them as we can. Sure we learn from them, if we're smart, but there's no denying that sick little flip in your gut when you recall the stupid incidents in your life.

I kind of wonder if the folks at Nokia aren't feeling a little bit of that stomach flip lately regarding their recent course changes with Microsoft, Symbian, and MeeGo.

I'm not the only one. Last night, attorney Christian Einfeldt tweeted the heck out of an article he found on The Inquirer. The Inquirer article, published last month, noted the US smartphone figures from Comscore's 2010 4Q report. I am sorry I missed this report until now, because if the reporting is accurate, Microsoft has a real problem on its hands. And maybe so does Nokia.

The article reported Comscore's findings that has Android at the top of the market, followed by Research in Motion in second place, and Apple in third. I had heard this back in February, since all the headlines touted Android's surpassing RIM. What I hadn't heard, though, was what Inquirer reporter Lawrence Latif noticed:

"Perhaps the most shocking performance was that of Microsoft. Comscore's October 2010 to January 2011 figures take into account Microsoft's WP7 launch, so naturally you would expect an increase in market share as punters got caught up in the $400 million marketing blitz. Instead of an increase, however, Microsoft's US smartphone market share slumped 1.7 percentage points to just 8 per cent, a daunting loss of over 17.5 per cent of its previous quarterly market share."

So, despite the massive hype that goes along with nearly every Windows product launch (I saw WinPhone 7 on Chuck, for Pete's sake, but product placement on NBC is stupidly rampant anyway), Microsoft still saw a drop in market sales.

Guess we may have a reason for Microsoft's acceleration of Android-related lawsuits, huh?

I share Latif's concern that Nokia's recent $1 billion partnership deal with Microsoft may not be looking all that great to the Finnish company right now.

If both Samsung and LG, cited by Comscore as the first and second most popular handset makers during the same period, couldn't help Microsoft increase its smartphone market share, then Nokia's chances are not looking especially good."

Latif makes a good point, and it's got to be bugging Nokia that they will need to carry WinPhone 7 into this kind of market.

But let's play devil's advocate for a bit: what else could they have done? MeeGo wasn't exactly ready to go yet, and carriers in Europe and North America were pressuring the company for anything other than another Android phone. Faced with that, where else could they have turned?

This may be little comfort to Nokia, because placing all their bets on Microsoft's mobile OS may not have been the best plan. I also suspect they realize that, having opted to close source the Symbian operating system, after making such a hullabaloo about getting it opened under the Eclipse Public License. Though most practitioners of open source know this is not how open source works, Nokia may be thinking that they need to protect what IP they have, while they still can. Closing Symbian, in some bizarre way, may be Nokia packing its parachute when they have to bail from WinPhone 7.

Meanwhile, MeeGo is still open, thanks to Nokia and Intel's joint decision to put the project's stewardship under the auspices of the Linux Foundation. And MeeGo is seeing some new interest in the mobile sector after Nokia opted to tone down its participation in the project.

A Reuters article today cited Valtteri Halla, one of MeeGo's steering group members, stating that technology firms like LG Electronics were taking a sharper interest in MeeGo "after Nokia abandoned it," the article said. It's unclear if it was Halla or the article's author who used the term "abandoned," and in either case, the characterization is wrong: Nokia is still an active member of the MeeGo development community, though Nokia sold the commercial licensing arm for Qt, the library upon which much of MeeGo and Symbian are built, to Digia in March.

No matter what you think of the Nokia-Digia deal, it doesn't constitute abandonment.

If Halla is correct, though, renewed interest in MeeGo, whatever the reason, would certainly be welcome. MeeGo, as I and others have continually said, needs an influx of new blood to keep it on track for a release.

A stronger MeeGo, even without a strong Nokia involvement, might ultimately be just what Nokia needs. If they do decide to pull the Symbian parachute, extra lift from an improved MeeGo would be very nice indeed.

Something to ponder.

[telep]

http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/20/inte ... -of-nokia/

[telep]

Da da da, oni će da rade na symbianu

When Nokia announced that they'd be working with Windows Phone 7 as their smartphone platform, the implication was that Symbian, at some point, would begin to be phased out. Further details of this phase out have been released, and the grim reality is that a lot of Nokia employees are going to lose their job in the process. There's going to be a deal between Nokia and consulting firm Accenture, whereby 3,000 Nokia employees get transfered to Accenture, with an additional 4,000 Nokia employees losing their job by the end of next year. Those that are transferring to Accenture will continue working on Symbian, but on a consulting basis, which represents Nokia's shifted focus from Symbian to Windows Phone 7.

http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/nokia-cu ... evelopment